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President Donald Trump’s long-ago claim that he hadn’t spoken to Jeffrey Epstein in 15 years got challenged by the late financier’s brother on CNN Thursday. (Watch the video below.)
“OutFront” host Erin Burnett played a 2019 clip of Trump insisting after Epstein’s arrest for sex trafficking that he hadn’t “spoken to him in probably 15 years or more” and that he wasn’t a big fan of Epstein. That would place their last conversation in 2004.
But Burnett noted that Mark Epstein had claimed they had a conversation in 2016. The sibling elaborated that it was after Trump had beaten Hillary Clinton to become president for the first time.
“After the election, I usually speak to Jeffrey regularly, and in one of the calls .. Jeffrey told me that ... it was after the election that Trump called him and it was sort of like, ‘Can you believe this?’ Because nobody believed Trump was going to win,” Mark Epstein said. “Trump was sort of surprised himself that he won. So Jeffrey said [Trump] called him like, you know, ‘Could you believe this?’ type of a phone call.”
Trump allegedly wanting to share his joy and surprise ― or just to brag ― to Epstein paints a different picture of why and when Trump and Epstein’s friendship soured.
Mark Epstein even asserted to Burnett that it was Epstein who canceled their relationship because he thought Trump was a crook.
There are many conflicting reports about the falling-out between Trump and the late sex offender, some dating it to 2007 or 2008.
Now that Trump has signed off on the release of the publicly unread files, perhaps the country will learn even a few more.

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